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Re: New Member, New 06 ION 3 2.4L (New to me anyway)

Postby elecblue06 » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:26 pm

never enough is a vendor on here pm them they might be able to do it for even cheaper then on ebay thats where i bought mine from back in the day they ran a group buy on it

my exhaust suggestion would be a midlength combo, (zzp or clear image auto) 1.75 primaries 2.5" dp and the tsudo.. it will preserve scavenging effects while giving a nice sound

i did the 3" dp becaus i knew i was going to go boosted.. i ran the setup NA and it wasn't too bad but I'm sure i could've had a bit better midrange with a 2.5" dp

as far as the LSJ setup.. the header is the same, the dp is a slightly different it looks like only for some years .. i think the lsj dp is 2.75 and then goes down to 2.5. a good after market dp will be best
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Re: New Member, New 06 ION 3 2.4L (New to me anyway)

Postby syn2083 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:00 am

Ok folks, so as some of you (all) know my car was in a wreck.

Got off the phone with the auto shop today and shes looking to be in good shape, they have the major parts replaced, suspension in, new wheel/rim and are getting ready to paint everything up before final install (this is about a week faster than anticipated).

With that in mind, I am seriously thinking about what I will be doing to my girl when I get her back. Instead of hi-jacking another thread I figured I would zombify my own thread haha.

So Per previous recommendations I figure I will get the CAI AFTER an exhaust/spring/header-dp change-out.

I may get the springs first, or the exhaust not sure yet depends on what information I get in the next couple o weeks.

I was thinking about Eibach springs, as allot of people I know say the quality is fantastic, but I hardly heard them mentioned here as a prime choice, any particular reason, or people have just used others? If not Eibach I had heard megan and canuck thrown about.

As for the exhaust I am a bit befuddled to be honest. I like the sounds of the borla, magnaflow, and tsudo. My main questions come in at the header/dp and exit size. I see allot of 3"-2.5" stuff but I am not sure what is/isnt appropriate.

Instead of SC, I think I will be aiming for a turbo package down the line. As I understand it, eventually I would want a 3" system, but would it be non beneficial/hurt performance for me to shoot for a 3"header->downpipe now?

Aside from that I cant recall seeing any catback systems that actually were 3" for the exhaust itself, unless I just suck at the searches haha. Would I want/need to look into a 3" exhaust setup and piece-meal it?

I guess I just dont know if I should go with a whole catback system, and get like a ZZP with a downpipe exit of 2.5" and slap on like a:

http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/shop ... ll&id=7520

or

find/have made a 3" setup all the way back?

Would swapping the header/dp for say that ZZP (I was thinking the original and not the shorty) not be good for me at this point, or would it not entirely matter if I did this now?

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Re: New Member, New 06 ION 3 2.4L (New to me anyway)

Postby aikidoshadow » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:15 am

I wouldn't bother with doing anything to the car more than a catback if I planned to go turbo. intake, DP, header...You'd replace all that shit when you changed aspirations anyways.
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Re: New Member, New 06 ION 3 2.4L (New to me anyway)

Postby syn2083 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:31 am

aikidoshadow wrote:I wouldn't bother with doing anything to the car more than a catback if I planned to go turbo. intake, DP, header...You'd replace all that shit when you changed aspirations anyways.


Ok so its not worth it to just get a better header-dp now?

At that rate, hooking in a 2.5" catback to a stock header/dp setup like that magnaflow that they say is for a "2.0l" should be ok, or not so much? I am trying to read up on this stuff but I am just getting lost haha. I guess the problem may come in with potential mounting, so if the mounting is wrong then I would have issues?

Sorry for the newbtacularity.
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Postby aikidoshadow » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:01 pm

Do you have access to a welder?
If so get a magnaflow muffler and one of the CTI over the axles pieces from OTTP and use the included piping. Its already 2.5. I have the magnaflow catback and its fucking expensive.
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Re: New Member, New 06 ION 3 2.4L (New to me anyway)

Postby syn2083 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:05 pm

aikidoshadow wrote:Do you have access to a welder?
If so get a magnaflow muffler and one of the CTI over the axles pieces from OTTP and use the included piping. Its already 2.5. I have the magnaflow catback and its fucking expensive.


Yeah seriously expensive haha.

I do have access to a welder, a friend of mine who does auto body and exhaust work so that could be an option definitely.

If not I could probably still save money bringing it to one of my trusted shops to do it than buying a whole magnaflow catback.

as an example, I found:

http://www.ottperformance.com/store/pc/ ... 22p233.htm

and

http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/shop ... in&id=8467

would that be sufficient or do I need extra pipeage?

If that falls through I guess I could go with a tsudo, or a like solution with a borla muffler.

That just leaves the springs to get.. hmm
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Postby syn2083 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:31 pm

found this on a scavanger hunt, free shipping and 571 for a magnaflow catback 2.5"

http://4wheelonline.com/Magnaflow_Ion_C ... 362.100079

I dont know how reputable the company is though, as far as prices thats the lowest ive seen for that catback though
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Postby aikidoshadow » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:41 pm

syn2083 wrote:found this on a scavanger hunt, free shipping and 571 for a magnaflow catback 2.5"

http://4wheelonline.com/Magnaflow_Ion_C ... 362.100079

I dont know how reputable the company is though, as far as prices thats the lowest ive seen for that catback though

Just do the measurements and buy the muffler and over the axles piece. I paid about that for mine shipped like 3 years ago from Gravana.
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Re: New Member, New 06 ION 3 2.4L (New to me anyway)

Postby syn2083 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:09 pm

aikidoshadow wrote:
syn2083 wrote:found this on a scavanger hunt, free shipping and 571 for a magnaflow catback 2.5"

http://4wheelonline.com/Magnaflow_Ion_C ... 362.100079

I dont know how reputable the company is though, as far as prices thats the lowest ive seen for that catback though

Just do the measurements and buy the muffler and over the axles piece. I paid about that for mine shipped like 3 years ago from Gravana.



Looks like 4wheelonline has 87 BBB complaints logged and a C- rating along with various bad reviews on numerous sites. Yay for the information age! haha

I am looking at other options, or doing a piecemeal setup. The only reason I am considering not, is because it looks like I may be able to get one around 5-550$ with free shipping, and adding up the parts I'd need + shipping to build one its almost a wash, so why not pony up a few more bux to get a clean install right?

-update, I can get one with shipping included for 529$ from performancepeddler

checking their ratings and everything seem to be on the up and up.

shrug, I think its a decent deal.
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Postby aikidoshadow » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:46 pm

Here if you dont want to mess with it, then go with this unless you have to have the full magnflow setup.

http://www.mandrelexhaustsystems.com/se ... Categories
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Re: New Member, New 06 ION 3 2.4L (New to me anyway)

Postby syn2083 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:07 pm

aikidoshadow wrote:Here if you dont want to mess with it, then go with this unless you have to have the full magnflow setup.

http://www.mandrelexhaustsystems.com/se ... Categories



Yeah see, this is the stuff I don't know. I don't need a magnaflow total system, at least I don't think I do anyway haha.

Thats some pretty great pricing.

Would I want/need a resonator, or if I go turbo down the line anyway I'd most likely need/want to swap the system out for a 3" setup anyway and could just do it then I spose.
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Postby syn2083 » Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:12 am

Ok so I got the exhaust stuff figured out (a plan at least). Next thing I am thinking about are rims and springs, which I think will come first actually.

So I am leaning towards Eibach or megan for those. As for rims, any particular size recommendation from anyone? I was thinking of just going up to say 17"ers or should I go for 18?

Any input welcome :)
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Postby aikidoshadow » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:30 am

With 17s the tires are cheaper, more abundant, and the wheels are generally lighter and less expensive. I got 18s and EIbachs, with that combo I make better curb clearance than with the 17s the redline came with. I run 225-40-18 with no issues in turning at all. Robinson has Megans and likes them. Eibachs have been track tested and spring rates were documented by Powell raceshop. I never saw anything on megans, but drop wise megans drop you lower. You will replace your dampeners quicker running drop springs on FE1/FE2 setups. I run FE3 (stock redline) and they will run drop springs just fine but with FE5 dampeners, then you will have the extra edge.
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Postby syn2083 » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:46 am

good info, I think ill go for 18s then, and I am finding some decent deals on the Eibachs so that should work out well too :)

any particular tire manufacturer recommended by anyone? I am new to the higher end of tire purchases haha
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Postby coraldayton » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:23 am

I've been running a 215/45/17 Eagle GT for the past year and I love them, nice and grippy.
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Postby aikidoshadow » Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:01 pm

syn2083 wrote:good info, I think ill go for 18s then, and I am finding some decent deals on the Eibachs so that should work out well too :)

any particular tire manufacturer recommended by anyone? I am new to the higher end of tire purchases haha

Tires are specifically two things for daily drivers:
How much money do you want to spend and what conditions are you planning to use them in?
Once you have made that decision recommended brands for me are:
Hankook
Kumho
Falken
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Re: New Member, New 06 ION 3 2.4L (New to me anyway)

Postby syn2083 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:29 am

Ok well I have ordered some Eibach pro lowering springs, I am getting a Coppertop Tower Bar, going to remove the bong when I get the parts in, do the antenna mod, and some night shades wee :)
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Postby syn2083 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:32 pm

Got my Eibach Springs in and my LEDs woohoo..

That was the good news, bad news..

Car is still in the shop until "sometime late next week" GAH!

At least the springs look pretty..
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